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Tony Miano’s Ministry of Honor, Genuine Love, and Righteousness by Truthful Speech? Or Not?

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Does Tony Miano’s ministry show kindness, genuine love, truthful speech and honor, or is he heralding slander instead of God’s Holy Word?

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We put no obstacle in anyone’s way, so that no fault may be found with our ministry, but as servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: by great endurance, in afflictions, hardships, calamities, beatings, imprisonments, riots, labors, sleepless nights, hunger; by purity, knowledge, patience, kindness, the Holy Spirit, genuine love;  by truthful speech, and the power of God; with the weapons of righteousness for the right hand and for the left; through honor and dishonor, through slander and praise.  

2 Corinthians 6

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Tony Miano can probably relate with a lot of the above verses.  He is now awaiting trial in Scotland for his recent arrest while he was open air preaching there. He is facing possible imprisonment, perhaps sleepless nights. He clearly knows what scripture says about the challenges, potential harm and persecution that may befall him as he evangelizes, especially on foreign soil. But as an evangelist, he also has a responsibility as he heralds God’s Word and represents Christ. Miano not only stands on a platform when he open air preaches, he has a platform in the form of a broadcast that he does at Cross Encounters Radio.

Last weekend, Miano advertised that his show was going to discuss discernment bloggers. Here was a tweet from Saturday advertising Sunday’s show:

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In the image below, the top tweet was published while the show was on the air and the two tweets beneath were sent after the show was over.

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Here are some of the tweets posted since the show was broadcast. You can see that the discernment “bloggers” he takes issue with is really me, a single blogger. There was no other discernment blogger mentioned in any of his tweets that I have seen:

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Chuck O’Neal of Beaverton Grace Bible Church, my former pastor who sued me and four others for defamation for $500,000, was interviewed for this show. It was difficult for me to listen to for a number of reasons. Anyone listening to the broadcast is essentially told that if you listen to me, JA, you are aiding and abetting Satan. You might just want to click that little x in the corner of your screen right now lest you find yourself in the fiery depths of hell along with me, the alleged Apostate.

A kind reader transcribed some words from Miano about me (remember, the show was advertised to be about discernment bloggers – plural):

Tony 47:18-  “I have personally gone to people who seem to be enamored with her and try to explain to them what she’s doing and have been ignored by them, or rebuked, or, uh, basically told don’t ever talk to me again, uh, because I’ve asked them to be more discerning about following this particular discernment blogger. So…she’s one of the worst of the worst. And it is only right since I have first hand knowledge of her activity, and don’t have to go by hearsay or innuendo, um, it’s only right that we should warn Christians to stay away from her. Uh, to not have anything to do with her, to not read her blog, to not friend her on twitter, don’t follow her on twitter. You are aiding and abetting the enemy.”

Tony 48:56-  “She is simply a vicious woman who is looking to attack somebody.”

Tony 53:04-  “She is an enemy of the bible. And so someone who makes it so obvious through their blog that they hate people and that they hate the truth of the word of God, these are the kind of discernment bloggers that should be avoided at all cost.

Tony 69:14-  “No matter how clear the water may seem in other areas with Julie Anne Smith, there is a poison, a deadly poison in what she does that you should not even pick up the glass, let alone take a sip, of what Julie Anne Smith calls ministry.

Tony 90:44-  “Again, we want you to avoid her at all cost, uh, because she is, uh, not a godly woman, needs to be saved.

Tony 91:40-   It is the law and the gospel that will stop the mouth of people like Julie Anne, if God doesn’t give her over completely to her sin and so harden her heart like he did with Pharaoh, uh, that she’ll never be saved. Uh, she may be apostate, uh, at this time. She tasted uh, uh, of the things of God, the presence of the Holy Spirit, the, the communion of the saints, the teaching of the word of God and she has turned her back on it. Uh, even though she has not publicly said I denounce Jesus Christ, everything about what she does on-line shows a denouncement of Jesus Christ, and the word of God says that people like that, uh, never come back. But our hope is that she will. Our hope is that we will see Julie Anne in heaven one day.”

Ok, you get the idea of the whole broadcast. But this is what I found quite interesting:

It’s important to note that while Tony Miano’s show was about discernment bloggers and urging Christians to be careful about who they listen to or read, Miano himself failed to do due diligence and fact check.  Miano told his audience to be discerning. Let’s see how discerning he was.  

Since the airing of show, Miano has tweeted quite a bit about me. I did not find the references about me to be accurate. I’d like to highlight just one example of an inaccuracy and allow you the opportunity to discern for yourself. We will start with this tweet in which Miano names me very clearly:

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Ok, so that tweet reads that I liken John MacArthur and John Piper to Islamic clerics who condone wife-beating. The #CER refers to Miano’s Cross Encounters Radio show and then we see the link to the broadcast here.

Here is what Chuck O’Neal said on the broadcast from which Miano pulled the words for his tweet:

She likens John MacArthur, John Piper, C.J. Mahaney and Chuck Smith to Islamic clerics who condone wife beating – just insane accusation because of their commitment to God’s design for the home. Their commitment to God’s design for Biblical roles for a husband and a wife.  (This was around the 55:30 min. mark)

It appears that Miano did a good job of taking the words from O’Neal (he did have to truncate it a bit and leave off names due to Twitter’s character limitations), but Miano got O’Neal’s message well.

In the broadcast, Chuck O’Neal references his own personal blog post he published about me in which he cherry picks quotes, tweets, articles from my blog or on Twitter to paint me in a way that he wants to present to others. The problem is that Chuck O’Neal has repeatedly shown to have poor reading skills and because of that, he comes to wrong conclusions.  

So where did O’Neal get the information for his blog post?  I remember the first time I read O’Neal’s words from his blog on this topic and it left me puzzled.  I’ve never written anything about John MacArthur connected with Islamic clerics, so I did a keyword search on my blog and found this article – the only article in which Islamic clerics are mentioned:   Are Christian Leaders Condoning Islam’s Rules for Wife Beating?? (Feel free to search for yourself in the right side bar.)

So here’s the part where I’d like you to be discerning.  You tell me:

  • What is the essence of the message in the article?
  • Where did Chuck O’Neal find John MacArthur and John Piper mentioned and who wrote that material?  Did I write it?
  • Did Chuck O’Neal accurately represent my words to Miano and the world in the broadcast?
  • Did Chuck O’Neal accurately represent the gist of the article?
  • Does it appear that Miano looked at the source document to see if his friend accurately portrayed me, or did he blindly trust his friend?

Let me remind you of Miano’s words.  He says he has gone to people to warn them about me. He tells THEM to be discerning.  He says he doesn’t go by hearsay or innuendo.

“I have personally gone to people who seem to be enamored with her and try to explain to them what she’s doing and have been ignored by them, or rebuked, or, uh, basically told don’t ever talk to me again, uh, because I’ve asked them to be more discerning about following this particular discernment blogger. So…she’s one of the worst of the worst. And it is only right since I have first hand knowledge of her activity, and don’t have to go by hearsay or innuendo, um, it’s only right that we should warn Christians to stay away from her. Uh, to not have anything to do with her, to not read her blog, to not friend her on twitter, don’t follow her on twitter. You are aiding and abetting the enemy.”

Crosstalk Encounters Radio is Tony Miano’s ministry effort. He will have to answer to God for his words and behavior on social media.  He will have to answer to his donors who support his full-time ministry and to his new church elders at Grace Community Church.  I hope he can find the right and godly answers.

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117 thoughts on “Tony Miano’s Ministry of Honor, Genuine Love, and Righteousness by Truthful Speech? Or Not?”

  1. HUG said,

    “I know a couple guys who would have Punched the Preacher Out at that point if he’d tried that on them.”

    His provoking, rude behavior positively begs for it, and I’m betting that he’s striving for such a reaction that he may cry “PERSECUTION!!”

    What a loathsome disgrace; makes me want to spit.

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  2. I’m pretty sure he used the persecution word with regard to his arrest in Scotland – – you know the one where he stayed at the house of the pastor who also was arrested twice in Scotland months earlier for the same thing.

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  3. Meanwhile, Christians are being terrorized, raped, mutilated, and beheaded elsewhere.

    GTY oughta reign this jerk in and discipline him Geneva-style. Bet that’ll never happen.

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  4. Maybe the Scottish court system will do everyone a favour and put his sorry rear end in jail for awhile so people don’t have to deal with his narcissism and lack of self-awareness.

    Oh wait, that may not be a good thing, he’ll come back with a bastardized Scottish accent, affect, and even more attitude,

    I hope he comes to Canada for the Stampede and ticks off the Calgary Police and the RCMP. Former cop or not, his behavior would not impress them or Stampeders.

    Oh wait, that may not be a good thing, he’ll come back with a bastardized Canadian accent, affect, and even more attitude.

    I’m sorry you are a target Julie Anne, I guess their mighty herd of followers heeded the admonitions – don’t see a single soul in here singing their praises and condemning you.

    Blog on!

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  5. So, let me get this straight. John McArthur’s Grace to You and Phil Johnson (his right hand man) actually approve of Miano in your face and insulting style of evangelism? Didn’t one of their staff preachers tell CON to sue you?

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  6. It’s very clear Tony Miano is NOT a preacher of righteousness, his message is filled with hate, with judgmental accusations, and does NOT point to the cross of Jesus Christ.

    Thank you for saying this. I wanted to say something similar myself.

    I would never get from these men that God so loved the world….Or that God so loved anyone. Or that God had any clue what love is.

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  7. Julie Anne,

    How many people attend Chuck O’Neal’s church?

    It seems O’Neal is creating drama for himslef and his church when he continues publicly to defend his heavy handed “Methodology”. Even for those who support his “Reformed” doctrine who didn’t leave the church, have be to getting tired of his public redundancy.

    Tony Miano and Chuck O’Neal may be one of those 5 Point Calvinist that was indoctrinated into believing that if one isn’t enduring persecution for their beliefs, they will manufacture it in order to find favor from the creator.

    Which may have been the case for Pastor Fred Phelps of Westboro who was also a self-professed 5 Point Calvinist.

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  8. JA and Lyn, in the 24 min vid, he’s talking to trees and bushes and a wall, his back to the street, in the shade. “Dang fornicatin’ abortin’ trees! A pock o’ cancer on ye! And may ye chop down yer own trunk.”

    Not much reality with that man.

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  9. Depending on the state, it can be a crime to record someone on video who explicitly said that they did not wish to be recorded. And a separate crime to release the video or show it. In addition the person who did not want to the recorded will have grounds for a civil suit for invasion of privacy. But the content of what the person making (or having made) the video cannot generally be the basis for a suit, just the fact of the taping against the wishes of a person.

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  10. So, let me get this straight. John McArthur’s Grace to You and Phil Johnson (his right hand man) actually approve of Miano in your face and insulting style of evangelism? Didn’t one of their staff preachers tell CON to sue you?

    That is what CON claimed. After a lengthy discussion, I think CON had to admit that there was a misunderstanding. Hmm, interesting, though, CON never came out and recanted his words on that issue. I don’t think I ever thought about that aspect. Phil Johnson spoke with Dee of Wartburg Watch and she did an article on this: http://thewartburgwatch.com/2012/05/15/phil-johnson-responds-for-john-macarthur-and-grace-community-church/

    And this article includes a lengthy response from Phil Johnson in which he discusses the conversation he had with O’Neal about whether or not a Grace Community pastor did in fact encourage O’Neal to sue us: http://thewartburgwatch.com/2012/05/16/pastor-chuck-oneal-the-blogger-phil-johnson-and-overuse-of-slander/

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  11. Julie Anne,

    I’ve witnessed first hand that Preachers will emphasize (in heavy-handed methodologies) the need to endure recognizable persecution. If they see their membership not enduring suffering and persecution they will question their salvation.

    Fred Phelps, Tony Miano and Chuck O’Neal may be part of the 5-Point Calvinist club that have been indoctrinated into pursuing persecution if they can’t find it they will manufacture it.

    I ask you a question last night in a posting above.

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  12. Miano said:“You are going to die someday and it might be a result of the breast cancer you contract as a result of this abortion. It might be due to the ovarian cancer you contract as a result of this abortion. It might as a result of the cervical cancer you contract as a result of this abortion. Or it might be by suicide as many women who murder their children then turn to murder themselves. When you die, you will stand before God and give an account of your life. He will find you guilty of murder, even if you don’t abort your baby today. Because the first moment, the thought of abortion entered your mind, you murdered your child in your heart. God already finds you guilty. God will not care about your circumstances. God will not care if you allowed yourself to be deceived by the media, by your parents, by your boyfriend, by your doctor.”

    You know what I thought as I read this? I thought, “Gee, so why shouldn’t she just go ahead with the abortion then?” Because, according to Tony, she’s already guilty of murder & going to hell for it…And this is supposed to help her decide to have the baby?? More like talk her INTO it, if there had been the slightest hesitation in her mind……grrrrrr!!!
    [Picture Zooey banging head against wall here].

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  13. JA, the video you posted is quite interesting. The woman allegedly put a $20k figure on the child’s head. To me, this means she is willing under the right circumstances (as not-right as this may be, etc.), to allow the child to live. Could the sidewalk preacher have said, “Hold on, dude, let me call my deacons and see if there’s something we can work out here.” If each member of his new church chipped in like five bucks each, they could have come up with enough cash (like they didn’t already have it available) for the birth to take place and maybe an offer to adopt the child to a family who would care for it.

    If we as Christians are going to front for a preacher to confront people at abortion clinics, why could we not front to raise the child or help the parents raise a child? And couldn’t this be a ministry already prepared to help such people? Should we stand there in judgment, allowing the abortion to happen just to use it as ammo to condemn the un-manly man? All kinds of Christians do amazing things to put themselves in the position of being able to adopt/help out should the occasion arise. Just a few thoughts.

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