Tullian Tchividjian – Partial Timeline of Alleged Clergy Sexual Abuse and Spiritual Abuse

Tullian Tchividjian, Clergy Sex Abuse, Spiritual Abuse

Tullian Tchividjian, Clergy Sex Abuse, scandal, spiritual abuse

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This is a partial timeline of the situation involving Tullian Tchividjian. It focuses on his various publications since 2007 (if a book title appears twice, the first is a hardcover version and the second is paperback), his church ministry roles since 2009, and his publicly revealed illicit sexual involvements. We’re limiting the timeline to these topics and key events, to help focus attention on the overlaps between his ministries and publication writing periods that were paralleled by emotional and sexual grooming of women who were in some way within his sphere of influence.

The majority of this timeline was produced by Brad Sargent, who created the Resource Bibliography linked to below. He also used details that I (Julie Anne) had permission from the sources to reveal. I also added comments, mostly at the bottom of the post.

The select material that appears here comes from two sources.

  1. Some is already public. In most of these cases, the dates, publications, and any analysis can be found in the Resource Bibliography on System Issues Related to the Tullian Tchividjian Situation. Otherwise, links and quotes are noted in the text here.
  2. Other key details are based on the personal stories of women Tullian Tchividjian victimized, plus any documents these women have shared with us at Spiritual Sounding Board. NOTE: No names or personal details about these survivors of clergy sexual abuse are revealed here unless the women involved gave us their permission, or the details have already been made public.

Also note that additional personal details, documentation, and other survivors’ stories may be added here and/or in future blog posts if and when these women are ready to make them public. Please respect their right to do so in their timing, whether they choose this blog, elsewhere, or not at all. I have been communicating with some of these women for well over a year, and doing what I can to help them process their experiences, recover, and consider their options. Their personal well-being is my first priority, not pushing to get their story out.

Other notes about this timeline:

Three issues make things particularly difficult to follow in this case. First, sometimes the existence of sexual abuse perpetrated by Tullian Tchividjian has apparently been kept from people with spiritual authority over him who should have been told – the relevant churches, publishers, and other organizations. If they had known earlier, they could potentially have stopped his chain of victimization.

Second, sometimes authority figures have known about his illicit sexual involvement, but kept silent about it. Their cover-up allowed more women to be victimized while Tullian Tchividjian continued with his public ministry and book writing.

Third, sometimes the existence of the liaison became known but the details of the woman involved have not, so it has been too vague to investigate.

As of November 22, 2016, the accounts of two women who were groomed emotionally and sexually have been made public (Woman #1, Woman #3). Details on another victim (Woman #2) appear here for the first time, though her existence has been known publicly since March 2016.

UPDATE — THIS REPLACES THE PARAGRAPH IMMEDIATELY ABOVE: As of December 2, 2016, there is at least some public knowledge about each of the following six women that Tullian Tchividjian had some form of personal connection with — not all of them sexual involvements. Please read the details carefully about the extend of the connection in each case.

Our way of attempting to deal with these complexities is to talk about when the clergy sexual abuse occurred, some of the profile details of the women involved, when the abuse was revealed publicly, and who in authority may have known before it was revealed but said nothing. As you can see from the summary directly below, the stories quickly overlap and/or get interwoven. So, to make related people and events more visually noticeable, we are using several colors of type. Hopefully this helps.

Kim Tchividjian (Tullian’s first wife). They were married in 1994. In August 2015, he filed for divorce from her shortly after his sexual involvement with Woman #2, and around the same time he first contacted Woman #3 (“Lisa”). The divorce was finalized in March 2016, less than two weeks before the public revelation of his sexual involvement two years earlier with Woman #1.

Woman #1 – May through July 2014. She was not a congregation member under Tullian’s pastoring. She was married at the time. His relationship with her was only revealed publicly until March 2016 (although a mentor/friend and two church elders had known for two years but kept silent). This led to Tullian’s being fired from a ministry position at Willow Creek Presbyterian Church. (Note, this church is not connected with Willow Creek Community Church in Illinois.)

Woman #2/Rachel – April through June 2015. Rachel (her real name) was a congregation member under Tullian’s pastoring. She was married at the time. His relationship with her was revealed publicly in June 2015. This led to his resigning as Senior Pastor at Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church. In a series of posts from November 29-December 1, 2016, Rachel reported her account of Tullian’s emotional grooming, seduction, and the aftermath.

Woman #3/”Lisa” – June 2015 (approximately) through March 2016. She uses the pseudonym “Lisa” in the post of her story. Lisa was an acquaintance of Tullian’s. She was married at the time. According to her story, which was shared publicly November 22, 2016, Tullian was grooming her emotionally and using sexual innuendos. However, she cut off contact with him after the public revelation in March 2016 of his relationship two years earlier with Woman #1.

Woman #4/”Kara” – September 2014 through September 2016. Kara was an acquaintance of Tullian’s. She was divorced at the time. Her story was shared publicly November 23, 2016. She reports that Tullian was grooming her emotionally, sometimes communicated with sexual innuendo, and directed her to push back in social media on his critics. Kara challenged Tullian at points about the veracity of his statements, and ended contact around the time Tullian married Stacie Phillips. [This information added 12-2-2016.]

Stacie Phillips (Tullian’s second wife). According to “Lisa” – Woman #3Stacie Phillips befriended her in the summer of 2015, around the same time that Tullian claimed to be attempting to reconcile with his wife Kim (he filed for divorce from her August 22, 2015). Stacie Phillips eventually married Tullian about a year later, August 26, 2016.

Note that links appear in this color of blue, as usual.

UPDATE: December 15, 2016. An additional woman reportedly seduced by Tullian Tchividjian shares an overview of her experiences with him from October 2013 through August 2016, in a post on Spiritual Sounding Board: 1. Third Woman Victim of Tullian Tchividjian’s Seduction Gives Details; She Reportedly Extends Timeline of His Adulteries Back into 2013.

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July 8, 1994. Tullian Tchividjian and Kimberly Genna get married.

August 21, 2007. Book published – Do I Know God? (Multnomah).

April 12, 2009. There was a merger on Easter Sunday of New City Presbyterian Church, where Tullian Tchividjian was founding pastor, with Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church, and installation of Tchividjian as Senior Pastor.

April 14, 2009. Books published – Do I Know God? and Unfashionable (Multnomah).

September 20, 2009. There was a vote on whether to retain Mr. Tchividjian as Senior Pastor; a majority voted in his favor.

April 23, 2010. Book published – Surprised by Grace (Crossway).

January 6, 2011. Book published – Don’t Call It a Comeback (Crossway).

October 14, 2011. Book published – Jesus + Nothing = Everything (Crossway).

June 5, 2012. Book published – Unfashionable (Multnomah).

October 1, 2012. Book published – Glorious Ruin (David C Cook).

October 1, 2013. Book published – One Way Love (David C Cook).

February 28, 2014. Book published – Surprised by Grace (Crossway).

March 1, 2014. Book published – Glorious Ruin (David C Cook).

May 2014. Controversy erupts between members of The Gospel Coalition and Tullian Tchividjian over the meanings, extent, and applications of “grace” – and over the public responses in defense of Sovereign Grace Ministries (SGM) leader C.J. Mahaney and relative silence on the cases of sexual abuse and alleged cover up. SGM has been the subject of much investigative reporting and sharing of survivors’ stories by spiritual abuse survivor bloggers and others. Therefore, the many individuals and organizations and blogs of interest get involved in the public conflict.

May through July 2014 – Tullian Tchividjian is involved sexually with Woman #1. She was married at the time, and was not a congregation member of Coral Ridge. This illicit relationship was revealed publicly about two years later in March 2016, and led the firing of Tullian Tchividjian from Willow Creek Presbyterian Church, where he had been working on staff since late August or early September of 2015. Before the public revelation of Tullian’s clergy misconduct, it was known to Steve Brown (a friend and mentor to Tullian), to two elders at Coral Ridge who were subsequently removed for not disclosing this moral failure, to Kim Tchividjian, and eventually to Woman #2/Rachel.

September 2014 – Tullian Tchividjian meets Woman #4/”Kara” face to face for the first time, at a Christian products Exposition he invited her to on September 21-23. He had connected with her previously via social media. They stay connected through September 2016, mostly by social media, although there are periods of time where they were not communicating much. The account of her interactions with Tullian is presented in “Master of Manipulation” by Nate Sparks on November 23, 2016.

January 1, 2015. Books published – Jesus + Nothing = Everything (Crossway) and It is Finished (David C Cook).

April-May 2015 – emotional grooming of Woman #2/Rachel by Tullian Tchividjian. Part of this relationship with Woman #2/Rachel involved Tullian borrowing money from her and her husband to finance hiring a private investigator to find out if Kim Tchividjian was having an affair. If they paid on his behalf, he could prevent Kim from finding out. The couple used their credit card for payments on April 25, May 1, and May 6, 2015. Despite numerous attempts to get Tullian to repay these funds, and his promises to pay, he kept delaying. Finally, his repayment check for $11,130 arrived approximately 10 months later. It was dated March 18, 2016 – just several days after his illicit sexual relationship from May through July 2014 (with Woman #1) was finally made public. Many details of her experiences and reflections are in a comment by “Anonymous” on the November 22, 2016, post “Do Unto Others” by Nate Sparks. She has chosen to make her full story public on Spiritual Sounding Board, in a four-part series. Here is the link to Part 1.

End of May through end of June 2015 – Tullian Tchividjian is involved sexually with Woman #2/Rachel. She was married at the time, and also a congregational member at Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church.

June 2015. Tullian Tchividjian acknowledges his recent illicit sexual involvement with Woman #2/Rachel from his congregation. He resigns his position as Senior Pastor of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church. His pastoral credentials are revoked by the South Florida Presbytery. However, his sexual involvement with Woman #1 in 2014 is still not made public.

June 2015 (approximately) through March 2016 – emotional and sexual of Woman #3/”Lisa.” Tullian Tchividjian contacts Woman #3 –  who goes by the name “Lisa” in sharing her story in the post “Do Unto Others” by Nate Sparks on November 22, 2016. According to her narrative of the events, this was “in the late Spring of 2015, during the time shortly after he was officially fired from his position at coral Ridge Presbyterian Church” (June 2015, after the revelation of his clergy sexual abuse of Woman #2/Rachel). According to Lisa’s narrative, Tchividjian was grooming her emotionally and making sexual innuendos. Although this relationship did not cross the line into sexual involvement, Lisa was deeply involved in supporting him on social media and in challenging those who didn’t believe in the sincerity of his repentance process. Lisa was married at the time. QUOTE from the blog post:

Towards the end of their friendship, in the weeks leading up to Tullian’s second pastoral sex abuse scandal in March, 2016, Lisa began to distrust him. In light of this distrust, Lisa confronted Tullian about his lies. Instead of confessing and telling the truth, he doubled down on his deceptions and attempts to convince her that she shouldn’t believe what other people were telling her.

Even after the news broke, Tullian tried to lie to her. He tried to convince her that the whole thing was being blown out of proportion, that he had done nothing wrong. Lisa was devastated by his lies. She asked him to tell her the truth and asked why he deceived her. But Tullian offered only half-hearted apologies followed by further attempts to manipulate and control her.

Broken from the depths of his lies and realizing he was an abuser and not a friend, Lisa and her husband discussed the situation and decided it was best for her to no longer speak to Tullian.

Summer of 2015. The stories of “Lisa,” Stacie Phillips (whom Tullian married August 26, 2016), and Kim Tchividjian get intertwined. Lisa and Stacie connected because of their personal and social media support for Tullian. Again, quoting from Nate Sparks’ post, “Do Unto Others” on November 22, 2016:

[I]n the Summer of 2015. A woman by the name of Staci[sic] contacted Lisa and told her she was a friend of Tullian’s, and also lived in the same town as Lisa. She strongly pursued a friendship with Lisa, and regularly insisted the two of them should get together. After Lisa asked Tullian about Staci, and he confirmed that she was “a cool chick,” Lisa exchanged numbers with her. They began talking regularly and exchanged text messages frequently. They even went so far as to make plans to get together. However, Lisa was stood up each time by Staci. In one text exchange, Staci told Lisa that she was going to be in town, so they should get together. Lisa was appropriately confused and said, “I thought you live in my town…” Lisa soon learned that Staci had moved to Orlando for her job.

Orlando, of course, is where Tullian was living at the time. Lisa would later learn the two had begun dating during this time. Tullian and Staci married in September. [Correction: married August 26, 2016.]

This is especially curious, because Staci’s relationship with Tullian began in similar fashion to all the other women he targeted. In fact, he and Staci had been exchanging messages during the time Tullian claimed to be attempting to reconcile with his wife, Kim in the Summer of 2015, after his own sexual misconduct became public.

August 22, 2015. Tullian Tchividjian files for divorce from Kim.

Late August or early September 2015. Tullian Tchividjian is hired as Director of Ministry Development by Willow Creek Presbyterian Church. (The exact date is uncertain, as Tullian first notes a connection with the church in an August 30 tweet, but the news becomes public in a news article update on September 4.) Controversy erupts over multiple issues, such as whether this is too soon to be back in “ministry,” whether there has been real repentance and restoration, and whether this is a platform/public leadership ministry or not. The church says no rules were broken in the hiring.

February 2016. Tullian Tchividjian’s Liberate Network was relaunched with nine board members. (He was not on the board.)

March 2, 2016. The divorce between Tullian and Kim Tchividjian is final.

March 2016. In mid-March 2016, another earlier – but not confessed – situation of sexual misconduct by Tullian Tchividjian (with Woman #1 from 2014) is revealed to his church and to Liberate Network leaders, and he acknowledges the sin. His employment with Willow Creek Presbyterian is terminated immediately. On March 16, five of the nine members of the Liberate Network Board resign, and two days later the four remaining Board members announce the cancellation of the 2017 Liberate conference and the dissolution of the organization.

April 9, 2016. Warren Throckmorton posts, Is There a Comeback In the Works for Tullian Tchividjian? Tullian Tchividjian spoke/“shared” at Spring Hills Community Church in California. This is just three weeks after the dramatic public disclosure of his sexual misconduct from 2014.

August 25, 2016. The day before Tullian Tchividjian and Stacie Phillips get married, Kim Tchividjian tweets a status that says, “Tonight is hard. Tomorrow will be harder. But God.”

August 26, 2016. Tullian Tchividjian and Stacie Phillips get married. This appears to be a turning point in his “return to ministry.”

September 6, 2016. Warren Throckmorton posts, Things I Learned Today: The Mark Driscoll, Tullian Tchividjian, and Dustin Boles Edition. “Tullian Tchividjian got remarried sometime over the weekend of 8/26. He has been in Texas and is working on a book.” This is apparently a book to be published by David C Cook, which published five previous titles by Tullian Tchividjian.

September 23, 2016. ExPastor.com posts the article, God is Not Done with You Yet. And Neither Are We, by Bo Lane. Four days later, ExPastor.com posts an article by Tullian Tchividjian himself, The Freedom in Losing it All, in which he states he considered suicide. Online response to this apparent come-back into the public eye is mixed. As far as who contacted whom first, an October 3, 2016, post by ExPastor Executive Director Greg Atkinson on his blog states the following: “When Tullian Tchividjian reached out to us and I talked with him on the phone …” (What Grace Means to Me.) After Tullian’s ExPastor.com article is posted, Woman #4/”Kara” continues confronting him about the veracity of his statements; she eventually ends contact with him.

October 31, 2016. Tullian Tchividjian presents a sermon at Spring Hills Community Church, Santa Rosa, CA.

September through November 2016. News articles and blog posts about Tullian Tchividjian’s apparent relaunch into ministry appear, including analysis comparing some of his older and more recent public statements, and the narrative account of “Lisa” about his apparent emotional and sexual grooming of her starting in the summer of 2015.

UPDATE: December 15, 2016. An additional woman reportedly seduced by Tullian Tchividjian shares an overview of her experiences with him from October 2013 through August 2016, in a post on Spiritual Sounding Board: 1. Third Woman Victim of Tullian Tchividjian’s Seduction Gives Details; She Reportedly Extends Timeline of His Adulteries Back into 2013.

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Some final thoughts:

I have made my opinion known that I consider Tullian Tchividjian to be a sexual predator, and that his behaviors involve both clergy sexual abuse and spiritual abuse for taking advantage of women within his sphere of ministry influence – whether they were in his own congregation, associated with his Liberate Network or its events, and/or part of his social media support system.

I believe Tullian Tchividjian’s actions disqualify him from ministry roles, and from having a platform as a “Christian celebrity” who is supposedly representing Jesus Christ in public and in publications. I hope that potential media sources, publishers, ministries, and churches will take in the details of what he has drawn in and harm these sisters in Christ. I hope individuals and institutions will stop excusing his actions with “grace,” and stop giving him a platform that perpetuates his influence to continue this pattern. If they fail to do that, aren’t they then knowing accomplices to his vices?

I plan to continue investigating for answers to questions that still remain about Tullian Tchividjian’s connections with women and his alleged grooming of them for sexual relationships. And there are also issues about his spurring of people to take his side on social media, and whether/when a next book is forthcoming from (apparently) David C Cook. Meanwhile, as the situation continues to unfold, we at Spiritual Sounding Board will also do all we can to listen to, support, and minister to those who feel victimized by his actions.

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Regarding edits and additions: As noted at the beginning of this post, details and analysis may added. Corrections will also be made as we become aware of them. They will be noted here if substantial.

11-24-2016. Correction: March 18, 2016, was the date on the payment check, not the date the check was received.

186 comments on “Tullian Tchividjian – Partial Timeline of Alleged Clergy Sexual Abuse and Spiritual Abuse

  1. J.Smith, if you are going to stick with that law about cuttings, are you also sticking with not eating pork, shellfish? Do you abide by the purity teachings of abstinence while menstruating or after having a baby? I know there are many more OT laws. I think there’s a reason why Jesus came and brought the new law of love. 🙂

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  2. sheep lady! love it. Just catching so have a few thoughts…

    Daisy, I’m now thinking about whether my next car should be a sports car 🙂

    I’ve been challenged that, the Bible says nothing about staying single for a time before pursuing another marriage.

    I don’t think you have to, but when its a circumstance like this, obviously Tullian has some stuff he needs to work on. But he doesn’t really care to, so that’s probably a moot point.

    Loura, I get your point, but I think that when we hear from individual women who had contact with Tullian, complete with text samples, we have to realize that those are first hand sources (leaving aside how much they have been paraphrased, which I agree with you in preferring that they be given as is, perhaps with additional comments below). They may be telling truth, they may not, but how we determine that is through looking at whether they fit the individuals and verifying all we can. This is difficult when we don’t have their names, but I am comfortable reading anonymous comments generally. We are not judge, jury and executioner. I understand why people would not want to be in the spotlight.

    Tullian has had his say publically. His acknowledged behavior and formal statements alone are enough for me to evaluate, imo. The rest is simply filling in blanks. I would have higher standards for evidence if I were going to affect his life in any way, though.

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  3. To be clear, my point about tattoos is not that they are explicitly banned for the church–the law is satisfied in Christ, and we are therefore not under law. However, what tattoos (or bodybuilding, or using steroids, or extreme tanning, or buying the new sports car or motorcycle, or whatever) are is often a sign saying “look at me” which is often a plea for help.

    Certainly was in TT’s case, and the sad reality is that those who belatedly intervened got snowed. I saw similar things when a former friend of mine decided to cheat on his wife and left her.

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  4. Somebody on another site was talking about the promise keepers having ‘accountability’ groups that basically told members it was ok to keep lies secret, like adultery, from your wife as long as you told the group? Obviously I have no personal experience with this (I don’t guess women have accountability groups? At least I’ve never heard of it), but it does seem like there was some of that attitude at play with Tullian. I wonder how pervasive it is.

    Bike Bubba, I don’t like to pick out any one thing to say it means ‘look at me’ (except maybe steroids) because its really all of it together? The whole focus on superficial rather than the internal aspects is the problem. Not going to the gym or having a tan or tattoos…which are all fine on their own.

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  5. Thanks THOT.

    I haven’t had a TV in over ten years. I spend my time knitting now 👌🏼 whilst listening to audio bible.

    (How spiritual am I?)

    🙋

    Frank Viola could be a serial adulterer for all I care.

    His Pagan Christianity book changed my life.

    I can’t unread it.

    I don’t buy into his “let’s all start home church Sunday clubs” stuff but I’ll say that his little red book opened my eyes.

    And tattoos.

    If I could go back ten years and undo all of mine… I’d pay any figure to undo the damage.

    They’re just not worth it.

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  6. That’s a good point, Bike. Doesn’t it seem like everything about his physical appearance is “look at me?” You can tell he works out, his tan, his hair, tattoos, designer jeans, etc. It’s all a facade.

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  7. Good point JA – He’s kind of sporting the George Hamilton look. Perhaps at some point we will see him on ABC’s Dancing with the Stars.

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  8. J Smith said,

    Good point JA – He’s kind of sporting the George Hamilton look. Perhaps at some point we will see him on ABC’s Dancing with the Stars.

    That will come only after he takes a leave of absence for a few months,
    then come back with a new book,
    and goes on speaking tours at various churches, talking about how he fell, how he learned from his mistakes,
    but praise Jesus!, God’s grace restored him,

    and he wants to tell you how you can apply lessons he learned from his journey (for a speaking fee or the price of his new book about it – the one that will probably feature his profile pic we see on this post – him staring wistfully off into space).

    Then he’ll try to appear on Dancing With the Stars.
    Personally, I’d rather see Tchividjian get barked at by Chef Anne on Food Network’s “Worst Cooks in America: Celebrity Edition.”

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  9. The Christian Show The 600 Club needs your funds to spread the Gospel of Jesus

    That one was funny. Did you see pat Roberson apparently advised somebody that it was ok that they not go to their sisters for the holidays because she refused to have contact with her parents because it was probably just hormones!!

    Somebody needs to send that man to the house!

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  10. Bike Bubba, I don’t like to pick out any one thing to say it means ‘look at me’ (except maybe steroids) because its really all of it together? The whole focus on superficial rather than the internal aspects is the problem. Not going to the gym or having a tan or tattoos…which are all fine on their own.

    JA, what Lea said in this paragraph really sums it up for me. There’s something, as you note, about all of these things coming together at once that just screams “midlife crisis.”

    Regarding Promise Keepers, I attended a few conferences in Boulder and LA, and I do remember one speaker, can’t remember who, who did more or less suggest that it was best to reveal porn use to one’s accountability group instead of one’s spouse. I think I’ve seen it in a book somewhere, too. Sorry I’m not more specific, but it’s been 20 years.

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  11. I guess I hit mid-life crisis this year when it came down to job searching. Fortunately, the “crisis” portion didn’t last too long — for me it was a matter of “it will be what it will be.” As for menopause…I know I’m not there yet because I’m freezing throughout the day. Will I finally know I’ve hit the mark when I’m sweating and fanning myself in 50 degree weather?

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  12. Salty – Pagan Christianity was of interest to me as well. You can be sure that I never learned most of that in Bible college! But, I admit that I am sorely disappointed that another pastor and author has allegations of sex abuse under his belt.

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  13. Julie-Anne: When clicked on this two days in a row now nothing stays on screen it goes to a blank screen: Better copy and paste somewhere before it disappears.
    https://t.co/uFA9Ec7F37 (what you posted to read)?
    Also: Avid Reader: Derek Prince repented for his part in the shepherd movement and people know that believe even D.B. wrote a book about and heard him repent; contact his Ministry in Florida maybe they would know what teaching tape on. Also, HAVE not read anything else of Frank Viola’s; don’t care to read anything else of his because thought Pagan Christianity was such an excellent write. Also, friends called me up and said he got involved with people who were in error. SO MANY MEN/Women started out WELL and then for whatever reason money, power corrupts absolutely. Look at “Religious Politics” by R. Liardon and how all that played out booklet was correct should have read/heeded own written work. NONE of us are exempt from sin, temptation NOT excusing sin; I can’t throw stones whatsoever. We all have Bible=Word if care to read and heed!
    Daisy: 11/29 at 9:32 post YOU GO GIRL (WHOA MAN=play on woman; don’t mess with this wonderful insightful woman)!

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  17. “And to buy deflector shields for their space ships that are being sent on these missions:

    Christian Broadcast Channel fund raising
    (link to You Tube video – one crude term used at the end of the video)”

    HAHAHAHA

    Ahhh thanks Daisy.

    Really needed that.

    Kathi, I haven’t read about FV and bad behaviour. Oh dear.

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  18. per Bike Bubba’s reply: Regarding Promise Keepers, I attended a few conferences in Boulder and LA, and I do remember one speaker, can’t remember who, who did more or less suggest that it was best to reveal porn use to one’s accountability group instead of one’s spouse. I think I’ve seen it in a book somewhere, too. Sorry I’m not more specific, but it’s been 20 years. EOQ

    “don’t tell your wife” is one of the biggest lies that keeps men in bondage to porn or whatever addiction they are hiding… man’s way says we can keep hiding it to try to beat it while we continue to live in deception… that’s not God’s way… His way is drastic and painful, yet effective… and that means ALL deception ends too! until the Church realizes deception needs to be addressed as well instead of excusing/justifying the continued cover up, we will continue to have these kinds of moral failings being exposed in the Church…

    I’m sorry, for me the bigger problem going on in the Church are those who knew it and aided and abetted, excused/justified, etc. the cover up in the hidden secret room of the temple, per Ezekiel 8… that’s the enemy’s way… God’s way is in the light.

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  20. @JulieAnne:

    The only way I want to see Tullian now, is simply humble.

    As in having Armorbearers in livery blowing long trumpets before him to announce how Humble(TM) he is? (chuckle chuckle)

    Or just Uriah Heep II?

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  22. Sometimes I shave only once in a two-week period because I do physical labor 16 hours per day and there’s not even enough time for sleeping. But Tullian grows a 7-day, designer-cropped, beard (and then shaves, and regrows) as a fashion statement–to appear more bad-boy-sexy to potential prey. This goes hand-in-hand with the deep tan, open collars, stonewashed jeans, soulful book cover poses, body sculpting… as well as the fake name. Yeah, ‘Tullian’ is not his real first name; his birth name is the much more pedestrian, much less sexy, ‘William.’ It’s Narcissism on Parade within the Christian Church, brothers and sisters, and we shouldn’t enable it!

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  23. @DanielSHagopian:

    But Tullian grows a 7-day, designer-cropped, beard (and then shaves, and regrows) as a fashion statement–to appear more bad-boy-sexy to potential prey. This goes hand-in-hand with the deep tan, open collars, stonewashed jeans, soulful book cover poses, body sculpting… as well as the fake name. Yeah, ‘Tullian’ is not his real first name; his birth name is the much more pedestrian, much less sexy, ‘William.’

    Again,

    (The ridicule just writes itself…)

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  27. Sort of off topic, but, I think I read somewhere that Stacie Phillips is twice divorced? Any details on that, that you know of?

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  30. @BikeBubba:

    JA, what Lea said in this paragraph really sums it up for me. There’s something, as you note, about all of these things coming together at once that just screams “midlife crisis.”

    The most spectacular midlife crisis I have ever seen hit this one guy when he turned 30(!). He immediately came out as “bi” (not “gay”) and started sleeping around with as many visibly-younger males and females as he could, acting like a sexual predator trying to get all the nookie he could before feeding the worms. It was like a Damascus Road Altar Call Conversion Experience, including the compulsive Witnessing afterwards.

    In comparison, my midlife crisis was positively mundane — just traded in my econobox hatchback for a two-seater sports coupe and started watching a lot of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

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