child abuse, Modesty and Purity Teachings, Sexual Abuse/Assault and Churches

Christian Man Blames Teens in Skirts for His Lusting Eyes

If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell. Matthew 5:29-30

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My blogging friend, Sheila Gregoire posted these tweets, and I agreed with her so much that I took a screen shot and posted it on Spiritual Sounding Board’s Facebook page.

A lot of women chimed in in support of Sheila’s comment. And then there was this comment left by a man:

Thankfully, a reasonable man (who also happens to read/comment here), gave the man something important to think about:

Others also chimed in:

We have a long ways to go if we are unable to convince this Christian man that the onus is on him to control his lusts. And as someone mentioned above, he has daughters of his own – how is he able to not lust after his daughters? By controlling himself. The same control needs to be applied everywhere – not just because they are minors, but because Jesus said so.

Good grief, this makes me upset.

115 thoughts on “Christian Man Blames Teens in Skirts for His Lusting Eyes”

  1. These “Christian voyeurs” need to confess that they have a problem, which they need to take to Jesus for deliverance. He is the Savior. He can break the bondages of lust. “Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. . . . If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed” (John 8:34, 36 KJV).

    I, for one, can totally sense Julie Anne’s and Kathi’s caring and compassion, as well as that of the rest of the “Spiritual Sounding Board” community. If only these people who are struggling with lust would humbly admit their sin instead of blaming the innocent, they would find empathy and support in their battle against evil. Isn’t Step 1 of Alcoholics Anonymous to acknowledge you have a problem?
    And when [Jesus] was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, saying, “If
    thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto
    thy peace! But now they are hid from thine eyes” (Luke 19:41-42).

    Our righteousness is supposed to “exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees” (Matt. 5:20). We are supposed to let our light “shine before men.” (v. 16). How can the Church accomplish this when its members behave worse than the world?

    Honestly, these issues of dress just don’t come up in the world. I have hung around manifold secularists, most of whom drank and cussed, and not once was I ever shamed, judged, scrutinized, or harassed in any way.

    My father and brother never paid one bit of attention to what I was wearing. My brother now has two step-daughters, and I see him interact the same way with them. He really would not be able to respond if he were quizzed about their clothes. He simply doesn’t notice that kind of stuff. Ditto for my friends’ fathers and boyfriends. It just isn’t a guy thing to notice girly outfits. At least that’s how the men are that I know.

    Think back to middle school and high school. Hey, I can’t even remember the names of 85% of my classmates, much less how they looked or what clothes they wore. Seems like these lustful men need to “get a life” and “MYOB.”

    “The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness” (6:22-23 NKJV).

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  2. If only these people who are struggling with lust would humbly admit their sin instead of blaming the innocent, they would find empathy and support in their battle against evil.

    I don’t know, I see way too of this crouched as ‘I have lust, therefore you need to do XYZ’. The women or girls simply existing in the world get all the burden of controlling this.

    If I saw a man say he has a problem with lust and he is working on it, full stop, without any wheedling, whining, it would be a different thing. I cannot remember the last time I saw that. If ever.

    But then, I also think the focus on ‘lust’ is often overdone. When it isn’t, it’s generally related to porn, which is men SEEKING OUT the objects of their lust on purpose and I don’t see how anyone other than them is supposed to help, nor do I think they should be asked.

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  3. The girls I am talking about might as well not wear trousers the way they wear this soft stretchy stuff to show every bit of their rumps. I do try and not think about it but it doesn’t help sometimes when they go out of their way to entice it seems to me. I just have to look away. It just seems an unecessary trap to me. If you don’t understand that then just leave it.

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  4. when they go out of their way to entice it seems to me.

    You are wrong about this, btw. They don’t care about you, they don’t want you to stare at them, they certainly don’t want to ‘entice’ you. They are living their lives wearing functional, comfortable clothing most likely. Or cute clothes! Because they want to. It’s not about you.

    I just had a conversation about a creep who stares at everybody in yoga and believe me, nobody wants that.

    Stop being a creep. Avert your eyes if you can’t be an adult.

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  5. “It just seems an unecessary trap to me.”

    “Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust.”

    The root problem lies in narcissistic tendencies. When you think this is all about you, then not only to women become a means to an end (your sexual gratification), but you begin to think that their completely normal actions are somehow meant to tempt and entice you. The clothes are just your excuse. Women are raped in Saudi Arabia even when their religious system is designed to do exactly what you think should be done do prevent lustful thoughts.

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  6. “They don’t care about you, they don’t want you to stare at them, they certainly don’t want to ‘entice’ you.”

    LOL. Preach it!

    It is ALWAYS the grossest; most putrid perverts that go on about how much girls and women want them.

    Old pervs would act stupid and creepy with my best friend and me when we were twelve and thirteen. We smiled and acted nice. We had no choice. We were brainwashed that we had to kiss male @ss.

    But, we were really thinking; you are not cool and you are gross. Go away and stay away! I don’t want you looking at me, I don’t want you talking to me, and I don’t want you thinking about me. I don’t want to have to look at you, talk to you, or think about you. You are a putrid irrelevant pervert. It is embarrassing that you think you are anything but.

    We would always talk about how stupid and gross they were when we got alone.

    Oh, and when a girl is young, over thirty is old. We thought it was so embarrassing when old men did not know they were old.

    I am an asexual that loves clothes. I have been looking at Vogue, Elle, W, and Bazaar since I was sixteen. I could not care less what men think about my clothes and style. I hate it when men I don’t know talk to me. The only men I talk to are men I have known my whole life or cool men I know online that I will never see.

    Creeps lie to themselves so much about women and girls. It makes them feel better to pretend things are true that are not true.

    My best friend became a model when she was 16. The guys she rejected would make up lies about her in our small town that she was gay or pregnant. When girls ignored my father he would get pssed and tell everyone they were whres.

    I have been called a stuck up snob ever since I was twelve. I just don’t like being around boring dumb perverts. I would rather be alone.

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  7. The root problem lies in narcissistic tendencies.

    Dead on, Mark. Some men think every decision women make is about them. It isn’t.

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  8. It’s not poor me. It’s the right thing to do. You are not a man. You wouldn’t know. That attraction is meant for marriage not to spread around in the streets.

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  9. @ Tony Conrad

    Matthew 5:27-28 New International Version (NIV)
    Adultery
    27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[a] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

    https://biblehub.com/matthew/18-9.htm

    “If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.”

    Or you could move to Afghanistan with the other religious misogynistic bottom of the barrel creeps.

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  10. Or you could move to Afghanistan with the other religious misogynistic bottom of the barrel creeps.

    In my Cal Poly days, “Afghanistan” was an idiom for “very very far away”.

    “And the duck’s head winds up in Afghanistan.”
    — wish I could remember the D&D story that led to that punch line

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  11. It is ALWAYS the grossest; most putrid perverts that go on about how much girls and women want them.

    God’s Gift To Women(TM), but only in their own mind.
    Saw some of that for real; most often it was just stupid-funny, the guy was so delusional.

    However, it seems related to a page in an old ground-level TriTac comic called “Gamers”:

    LAW OF PROPORTION
    The more Perfect in Every Way and High-Powered the character is, the bigger a loser the player is.

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  12. You are not a man. You wouldn’t know. That attraction is meant for marriage not to spread around in the streets.

    So much wrong in one little statement. How strange to refer to attraction (yours to a stranger) as if it is what, sex work? Promiscuity?

    HUG, do you have a theory on the ‘women don’t actually understand attraction so they can’t possibly understand men’s super important dramatic unquenchable lust/man pain’ idea? I feel like it must be a flip of the gods gift thing you’re talking about.

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  13. @Tony “It’s not poor me.”

    Jesus kept it in his pants by the power of the Holy Spirit. The same Holy Spirit that he sent to live in the hearts of Christians today. Your lustful thoughts are not from yoga pants or bare midriff. They come from remaining sin in your heart.

    You can go on ranting about skimpy clothes causing lust all day long, but as we say in the IT industry…. PEBKAC – the problem exists between the keyboard and chair.

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