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Pastor David McGee of The Bridge Church publicly excommunicated or disfellowshipped four members via his Facebook page.
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On Thursday, Pastor David McGee of The Bridge Fellowship in Kernersville, North Carolina, posted a comment on his Facebook account publicly naming and “disfollowshipping” four church members. I repeat – this was done PUBLICLY on Facebook, not in the context of a church meeting among church members.
Check this out:
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David continued with his comment by quoting about 30 – thirty, not 3, verses justifying his actions. Some of the verses were quoted in different translations and guess which verse was included? Of course Hebrews 13:17 (“Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account.”), but take a look at the last verse quoted. Why do you supposed he ended with this verse?
Heb 13:7
Remember your leaders who first taught you the word of God. Think of all the good that has come from their lives, and trust the Lord as they do. NLT
You can read more about this story, including video here: Couple says they were banned from Kernersville church by pastor on social media
I like to dig a little bit when I read words. Do you see the contradiction in the following two comments by Pastor McGee? Take special note of the tithing references. The 2nd comment was posted 16 hours after the first comment.
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There were other comments claiming this was not really about tithing, but if it wasn’t about tithing, then why is it mentioned at all?
Here you can see some pushback and then a member defends her pastor. I noticed the word “covenant” in this comment, but did not see a membership covenant at the church website.
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When people publicly speak out against a pastor, they are frequently labeled as the enemy.The pastor is on the right side and anyone who questions him, is labeled as divisive, disobedient to God and His Word:
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I found another contradiction. Here McGee says he won’t defend himself publicly:
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But wait . . .now he is going to the media to share:
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This little note is revealing. And 31 people liked it! Yea, it’s really important that your pastor has lots and lots of friends . . because that makes him right and reputable and all Christiany.
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Of course we do not know all of the details of this case and can only make conclusions based on what we see publicly. But what I see publicly is troubling.
I have heard of stories where church members have been abusive to pastors. We often talk only about abusive leaders, but that is not always the case. Even if members are abusive, we need to ask how does a shepherd appropriately handle members who are divisive? If Pastor McGee is correct in saying that these folks have been divisive, how should a pastor respond? Do you see godly fruit in the behavior?
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Spiritual Sounding Board 
If anything, if the Yarbroughs and Gates want to hire a lawyer to see if they have a case, and that lawyer can subpoena me and a Judge allows my records, I’ll be there with bells on. But I don’t have a legal issue with The Bridge.
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Here is an idea, instead of looking to me to fix things, why don’t about ten of you get together, find a Secular lawyer to do some research and see if records can be subpoenaed and file a class action? There are tens of thousands of Secular groups with big time lawyers that love to expose this stuff.
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The Bridge staff will never give up their god David McGee. They worship him over there and it is quite sickening. I can remember the look of fear on some of their faces if you dared question David or disagreed with him. One day I was sitting in that “sanctuary” and witnessed the congregation and staff literally worshipping David. Then I sat there and watched David accepting worship. It was one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen. I witnessed so many ungodly things going on in that church. I still can’t believe I was there for 7 years. Thankfully we left before they were disfellowshipped by Calvary Chapel.
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Even without further evidence just by owning two homes worth over a million dollars and reading his FB excommunication blogs is enough reason not to support this ministry or attend this church.
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I am not looking to you to fix things. I am looking to you to come through on all of the things you said you had and you even named people by names and set deadlines, all for nought.
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Exactly, That is why I don’t think there is anything.
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“I feel lied to. You hyped all of this up on Twitter & then nothing, nada.” – I would agree. I will add I didn’t like the approach of taunting people and the church. If one has something to say- then say it. The come clean or I will have a blog revealing things isn’t a good approach. Nor is the sue me so I can show all my proof in court. I am not impressed and the church in question will laugh at it all. It comes across as a lot of hot air.
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Teaching Intelligent Design violates the First Amendment in a public school.
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Which courts? Which cases? Citations please.
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Well, he/she deleted the Twitter account…..
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You guys, I’m getting swamped with e-mails and notes. Hang tight, please. I have a good idea of what is going on and will try to put it in a post.
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Stuck in moderation, my comment is…..Strange things going on with tweeter deleted and the last comment I made not showing up.
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HeLives – check your e-mail. I sent your comment directly to the person you were speaking to. Because of the sensitive nature and possible legalities, I thought it best not to post it publicly.
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So that’s why it was taken down.
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HeLives, have Julie send me your email, we can talk
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@Truth Detector-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_v._Aguillard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLean_v._Arkansas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendren_v._Campbell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_v._Waters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epperson_v._Arkansas
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So, is this it? We just throw our hands up in the air and give up? It’s not rocket science to know who the person is that had affairs and had a 6 mos. marriage. I used to call her friend and sister. I used to think she was a victim and was taken advantage of, but now I know that she is just another liar in that place. I ran into Nora & David at a funeral several years ago and I remember noting that Nora looked like one of the saddest women in the world. I guess I would be sad too.
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Yes, we all know who the person is. God will bring everything to light in His time. I too saw the sadness and loneliness in Nora’s countenance at times.
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This is one of those times where the comments have left me more confused than if I just saw the actual post. Hehe.
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“I ran into Nora & David at a funeral several years ago and I remember noting that Nora looked like one of the saddest women in the world. I guess I would be sad too.”
Maybe she puts up with it for the nice house and all the perks/publicity that come with position? A sort of Hillary Clinton type of stand by your man because he owes me. Wives are complicit in this stuff when they put up with it. Getting out now would be the best chance of getting half before it crashes and burns unless he has played games with the assets which is most likely. Maybe she could actually salvage some self respect.
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“This is one of those times where the comments have left me more confused than if I just saw the actual post. Hehe.”
You know, it can be a real shock to find out your pastor can “fornicate in the vestibule” metaphoricaly and nothing can be done about it if people flock to watch and pay him to do it.
That is why it is important to learn from the experience that we are responsible for what we support and affirm. I doubt people who attend this church even demand to see a detailed budget much less insist they must vote on spending. These charlatans would not exist without blind followers who pay them.
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“Idolatry Exposed, if indeed you are aware of, or if indeed you are in possession of, such evidence as you suggest, I’m going to suggest that you owe it to Mr. McGee to bring that evidence before his church board”
Bubba, Places like this do not exist to this extent when they have serious oversight and accountability. No one owes anything to McGee and taking any evidence of wrong doing to any “officials” at the church would be exactly the stupid thing to do. Obviously those who surround McGee as officials approve of his methods. That is a clue it woudl be a waste of time.
Then again, putting proof of affairs or whatever like it in the blogosphere could bring a winnable lawsuit because McGee is a limited public figure and our government considers church a VOLUNTARY activity and adults have free will on what they support or not. Adults have the right to say no supporting such charlatans. Look at all the adults who make Joel Osteen rich. There were thousands of adults who hung on Mark Driscoll’s every word for years and made him wealthy.
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David McGee appearing on Trinity Broadcasting Network? That says it all to me in one word:
APOSTATE.
TBN = the religion of me, me, and more and more of well, ME…….and MONEY.
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@Truth Detector-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_v._Aguillard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLean_v._Arkansas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendren_v._Campbell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_v._Waters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epperson_v._Arkansas
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Aguillard, McLean, Hendren, Daniel, and Epperson are not on point, they strictly involve traditional creationism as opposed to ID (which was most notably popularized by Michael Behe, no evangelical by any measure, but a Roman Catholic professor with a PhD in Biochemistry from an Ivy). The only case at all on point is Kitzmiller, and that is a District Court case in Pennsylvania and has little or no precedential value beyond that small district.
The theory of ID as proposed by Dr. Behe merely points out certain irreducible complexities within certain biochemical processes that do not appear to be explainable by step-by-step, purely naturalistic evolutionary processes. Pointing out such scientific observations is not necessarily religious in nature, as much as some insecure evangelicals may have latched onto the theory.
Judge Jones’ decision is along the lines of Roe v. Wade and Griswold v. CT., it’s frightfully shaky from a legal standpoint and a case of rather raw judicial activism. It has been criticized in the legal scholarship on these grounds. I’m a professor of law, if that gives my opinions any gravity.
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Clarification: Kitzmiller would potentially have some precedential value throughout the Third Federal Circuit as well, it could be cited, I do not know if it has been, as I have not Sheppardized the decision (checked to see if it was cited in subsequent decisions). However, it has not, to my knowledge, been followed by any district or appeals court decision. It is, to my knowledge, a road to nowhere.
To analyze the decision itself and Judge Jones’s rationale, I’d have to do more research into the particular school district’s policy that was struck down. But to declare ID as it was proposed by Dr. Behe ipso facto unconstitutional per the Establishment Clause is something I doubt any circuit court of appeals is likely to do, least of all the U.S. Supreme Court.
There might be any number of explanations for the apparent irreducible complexities observed in nature, both religious and naturalistic, but to make a blanket statement that pointing out the fact establishes religion is absurd on its face. To give Judge Jones the benefit of the doubt, I’ll assume the school district policy was brazen creationism, for if not, it was an inexcusably silly decision. Again, though, it is not the law of the land, nor even, necessarily, the law of the Third Circuit, as a District Court decision can be cited, but is not controlling precedent upon another court even within Pennsylvania or other Third Circuit courts.
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Would love to make contact with some of you who were part of CC of the Triad.
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vindicatedatlast on June 19, 2015 at 3:37 PM
Would love to make contact with some of you who were part of CC of the Triad.
I was there from 2008-2014. Was an elder for 4 years as well.
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Vindicatedatlast and BET, I have a couple of ideas. I can create a special page here on the blog for you. It would be public, but you could continue to use pseudonyms.
Another idea is to add an area in my private SSB forum. Anyone who wants to be part of that group would need to send me a request in order to join.
Let me know what you think.
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Bet, our family started in 2003 and left in June of 2011. Hope to meet with you and some others one day and maybe we can start a ministry of healing for those coming out of abusive churches.
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Julie Anne, that is a great idea and would like to be a part of that. Thanks!
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Thank you, ZebinNC.
Which would you prefer? A page on the blog dedicated to former members of The Bridge or an area on the private forum? I’d love to get some feedback.
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I would like to be a part of that too. Great idea.
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I really have no preference so let’s see how many others want to be a part of this and go with majority rule.
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Sure thing. Some of you who may be new to Spiritual Sounding Board may not know that I am a full-time student. This past week was finals week and my brain is just spent, so I think I need to pay attention to my body and take a chill pill 🙂
I’m slowly going through all of The Bridge-related e-mails/personal notes and analyzing the common themes/complaints. I think it will be helpful to see an overall picture of what is going on from the eyes of former members.
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Maybe a private forum might be best.
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Thanks for sharing the stories with everyone Julie Anne, as it seems you maybe the only neutral voice. These stories need to be heard and people need to speak up. I would be interested in joining the group too.
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Ok, I have set up a board specifically for people who have connections with the Bridge on my private forum. If you would like to join, please send me a request at: spiritualsb@gmail.com
Feel free to pass the e-mail around to others. I think the private forum is the best idea because I know from experience that even writing a comment on a public blog using a pseudonym can be scary. Church leaders can have such an emotional hold on people.
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JA – What are you studying? Where?
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I hope that all your hard work at school will be rewarded, Julie Anne. Many people are grateful for everything you do, and I’m very impressed with how you’ve followed these stories and comments in addition to all your studies. I probably couldn’t.
As they say here after a long day (or a long week): O-tsukare-sama!
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I’m studying Computer Science at a local college.
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Thanks, Serving 🙂 You are always so supportive. I appreciate it. It truly is a privilege to help others. I will never forget those who supported me while I was trying to make sense of my bad church experience.
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Good for you, JA. Not the easiest field. Go get em.
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Computer science!? That was my major in undergrad! (Not that I’ve actually used that knowledge professionally, but… yeah, that was my major.)
Yet again I am impressed, JA. It can be a challenging discipline. I hope your finals went well.
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It is great to know that others also are aware of the activity there, and that they too have a voice that is being heard.
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Yes, indeed, HeLives. Feeling alone is not a good place to be. I can tell a lot of people have been struggling for quite some time. I’m curious to know – what is the average attendance each Sunday?
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Julie Anne,
You should feel honored when people like this block you. You must be a real threat to them and the evil truth they are trying to hide. Thank you for standing for the good side of truth.
Brenda
PS I hope you are taking the summer off from school.
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Yes, Brenda, that’s what I’m thinking. Only people who need to hide something will block. They are running scared.
No, I’m not taking summer off. I’ll be taking only 2 classes (10 credit hours), but it’s a short term – 8 wks, so it still feels like a full load. Thankfully, these are general ed classes and in English (not “foreign” computer language), so I don’t think it will be as difficult as last term.
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I went on his Twitter page and called him a coward and I never heard anything from him.
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I’ve been hearing that he has a team who mans his social media accounts. They delete negative comments and perhaps they are the ones blocking on Twitter.
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He surrounds himself with only those who will fall all over him, bow at his feet, and run at his beckon. He is beyond reachable, as being available would take time away from his sordid drug habits. Don’t believe me? Have his hair sample tested. It will show a rainbow of different prescription and non-presciption favorites.He spends most of his free time in a self induced state of euphoria. This is why he won’t answer phone calls, do interviews, or be available to the people that call him (wince) pastor. So yes, his twitter feed is guarded as the rest of his life. But it will all fall down, sooner than later. It’s crumbling as we speak. Many of the yes men and women are opening their eyes to his terrible deception and turning away from this charlatan. Hurray!!!
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There is zero accountability in that place. He surrounds himself with yes men who fear him and will never disagree with him. Imagine, fearing your pastor? Do sheep fear their shepherd? However, I guess David was never a pastor. He gives true pastors a bad name.
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He does give other pastors a bad name, even with his recent post on FB he is taking scriptures out of context to suit his needs. No accountability at all….. I do believe his days are numbered there, as his people being to open their eyes. His slogan living to tell what he died to say is even a sham, as Christ lived to tell His of His fathers saving grace, and pastor is living to tell his story of himself and his kingdom… Big difference…
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“There is zero accountability in that place. He surrounds himself with yes men who fear him and will never disagree with him”.
Well that sounds like most churches today. They want the flock in accountability groups but they themselves……
Oh well Julie Anne, they blocked you. I know that really hurts you feelings when these big, tough manly man types hide from a housewife asking questions. Well there is always google reviews.
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i agree, zero accountability… He and his team of yes men will continue to block, erase and hide anything that doesn’t paint them in a shiny positive light. No one will ever see financial records.. Just ask the name of the outside accounting firm that comes in each year, you will hear crickets…. Everything is a secret, that’s why they are afraid of the truth…
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Lydia, you’re probably right that McGee’s church board is on board with what he’s doing. That said, we would have said the same thing about Mars Hill a few months ago, and look what has happened there. If what one person noted is correct, there may also be legal issues where a church board can’t stop that ball from rolling.
For example, if the drug claims are true, all you need to do is to start naming his dealers/couriers and the like, and pretty soon you’ve got enough data for a warrant.
And if you do have enough information to justify a warrant….please, please, please be careful out there. I don’t want to be reading about funerals because someone reported drug crime and didn’t watch their back a little!
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Dash, if we don’t allow discussion of the possibility of an actor outside the system, what we’ve done in effect is to enshrine secularism as the state religion–and this is a stunt that many (Gould, Dawkins, etc..) are trying repeatedly, and mostly getting away with.
Really, you need to go with what the science says, and if it leads to a religious conclusion, so be it.
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@Bike Bubba- How can science lead to a religious conclusion when you cannot measure God? Where is God located? What are his dimensions? What is God’s molecular composition? By what mechanism did God put DNA in place? By what mechanism did God create the human spine? Give me measurable, testable, falsifiable answers to these questions.
At this point I would have to say that a) you have a very clear agenda about pretending that you can prove the Christian God exists, which you cannot; and b) you have no idea how science actually works, your “friend at the Mayo clinic” notwithstanding. What is that guy’s name, by the way? I’d like to contact him and ask him exactly by what provable scientific process God created DNA. “Null hypothesis” is not a legitimate answer, it’s a cop-out and you know it.
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Dash; science leads you to a religious conclusion simply by excluding the materialistic conclusion. It’s the same basic process your doctor uses to figure out whether your sinus pain will be helped by antibiotics or not–you exclude some of the hypotheses. Also the same process detectives use.
If you don’t get it, learn some logic.
And for that matter, modern Darwinism is in general not formulated in a testable, falsifiable way. You want to subject science to scientific standards? Great. Let’s start with the Darwinian hypothesis–Philip Johnson does this in an excellent way in “Darwin on Trial”.
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There you go, copping out again. You didn’t answer any of my questions.
If evolution doesn’t occur, why do bacterial populations become resistant to antibiotics? You have no clue what you’re talking about. Don’t shove your magical thinking into my world.
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Also, Philip Johnson is an attorney with zero scientific credentials. Less than zero- “Darwin On Trial” is widely considered to be a literary embarrassment for it’s utter lack of evidence. What kind of a clueless person are you that you give more credence to the word of a lawyer than a biologist?
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“Scientists have considered the hypotheses proposed by creation science and have rejected them because of a lack of evidence. Furthermore, the claims of creation science do not refer to natural causes and cannot be subject to meaningful tests, so they do not qualify as scientific hypotheses. In 1987 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that creationism is religion, not science, and cannot be advocated in public school classrooms. And most major religious groups have concluded that the concept of evolution is not at odds with their descriptions of creation and human origins.”
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6024&page=R9
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I have an amazing coincidence to report:
The term “The Bridge” is also used by Scientology as a title for both Scientology itself and L Ron Hubbard.
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I actually have evidence that this entire issue was manufactured for publicity and for another agenda and that the 2 couples supposedly excommunicated are in fact still at the church secretly and will soon reach a deal with this pastor and recant everything for more publicity.
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AJ, I am more than a little skeptical.
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@ AJ:
I don’t know what you think you have, but I am directly involved in this and you are mistaken. My husband and I would never attend that church again, and have both moved on to better places to worship with friends and family. We have nothing to recant publicly; because we didn’t do anything to warrant David McGee being a spiritual bully. I know this first hand, as it happened to me, not you; so please take your rumors somewhere else. David McGee had no reason for his actions other than second hand information from others and the narcissistic delusions in his own head; that I assure you if he is hearing voices, as he stated God told him to ban to couples, it was not the voice of God he heard that told him to do what he did. People are opening their eyes and realizing that something is not right in that place as they continue to lose people; including deacons and long time supporters. We have nothing to hide, and people are asking us for our story privately and we are sharing with them; and they are making up their own minds. Communication is key to being informed and David McGee failed to communicate with us before he made his public statement and to this day REFUSES every attempt to sit down with us and answer for the accusations he has made against us. Get your facts from the people involved.
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Thank you Cyarbrough for coming here and clarifying. I am so sorry for what happened to you and glad to hear that you have moved on to a better place to worship.
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I am one of the people involved. You are still colluding with people inside the church who depending on which group of people they are standing in front of are either for the church or against it. You have not one person on your side that can provide any information on any type of mismanagement, abuse, wrongdoing, etc… by any church staff member and you are still working with others on 3rd party issues who are church leaders.
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I don’t believe you, AJ. It sounds like you have been drinking the KoolAid.
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Since the article covers another spiritually abusive pastor and another spiritually abusive church, here are FREE electronic copies of Dr. Ronald Enroth’s famous books about abusive churches. Dr. Enroth has graciously made them available for FREE. They are quite helpful and classics.
Churches That Abuse by Ronald Enroth
http://www.ccel.us/churches.toc.html
Recovering From Churches That Abuse by Ronald Enroth
http://www.ccel.us/churchesrec.toc.html
There are many other good books about spiritually abusive churches and groups. Do a search online or at a major online bookseller for “spiritual abuse”.
For all those who have been spiritually abused in churches, it GETS BETTER!!
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AJ – I have seen with my own eyes how McGee shuts removes comments, does not allow those to disagree with him to have a voice. He is a bully and unfit for a pastor.
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My hypothesis: David McGee = AJ = sock puppet
Or in the event that McGee and AJ really are two different people, then AJ = puppet on a string.
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Julie Anne, your blog is about church abuse, thus you wake up in the morning needing church abuse to happen so you can gain notoriety. You are actually doing the same thing you are covering people for. Without church abuse, you wouldn’t have notoriety of course you are going to find it. And just because our Pastor may have his ways that are unorthodox does not mean that the allegations I have seen named on this blog about staff are true.
Just because Pastor McGee does not speak to you, or Christina, or anyone does not mean your allegations are true.
All I see is a bunch of whining about how a private organization handles it’s ways and a lot of lying about actual allegations with no proof. Christina has not a single sole that can substantiate anything she says and hence why she needs an attack blog to do her dirty work.
If she had ANY shred of evidence, the liberal media would die to get their hands on it, and there has been no reporting of anything.
Case closed.
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AJ you stated: I am one of the people involved. You are still colluding with people inside the church who depending on which group of people they are standing in front of are either for the church or against it. You have not one person on your side that can provide any information on any type of mismanagement, abuse, wrongdoing, etc… by any church staff member and you are still working with others on 3rd party issues who are church leaders.
First of all AJ, I wouldn’t know how you are involved as you don’t list your name (wonder why that is). Secondly, I am not colluding with people inside The Bridge, as I have not had any personal contact with anyone that still attends there. Thirdly, I do have proof that we were treated wrongly, as it happened to us; and lastly, I have had no contact with any leaders from the Bridge. FYI: I sat in court with a friend while she was being wrongfully accused by an Elder from there, if you want to call that a 3rd party issue; however, I call it supporting a friend that is being bullied by her ex-husband (wonder where he learned how to bully people, I don’t). So, again I say get your facts straight and stop speaking lies.
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@Gary W: Perfect, you make a hypothesis then cover it with a hypothesis in case your first hypothesis isn’t right just so you can be right. Brilliant.
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Christian once again your are using the word “abuse” without having an evidence of such. It sounds like “abuse” means whatever you need it to be so that you can get attention. I want to see some facts, not what you THINK.
This blog and you are doing exactly what you are whining about The Bridge and Pastor David doing.
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AJ – I have a private forum in which there are quite a few people from The Bridge who vouch for Christina and the others. You don’t get to defend abusers here. And if I see more of the same, I think the SSB watchdog will have to make an appearance. We have a dog house for people who do not go by the rules here.
As far as notoriety and waiting for stories – I have to figure out which story NOT to post. Sadly, because of school time constraints, I cannot cover everything I’d like. Nice try, though 🙂
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Ok, I see that you posted this comment just as I hit send on my warning. This is your final warning, AJ.
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@ AJ: If you wanted to know the truth, you can do like everyone else and call my phone; since you know it all I am sure you know how to get a phone number. This is not what I think, unlike others, this is what I KNOW. Attention, no don’t need it; but I have a feeling you are wanting some by not answering direct questions and hiding behind initials and not names. Just another reason why I only tell and show what I have to those with open minds, not closed ones.
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Thank you Julie, you did exactly what I wanted. You accuse David McGee of deleting comments and not answering questions and here you are preventing discourse. You are doing exactly the same thing you are whining about him doing and I thank you for walking right in to that so I can use it at church to show that Christian has no FACTS, only what she thinks, and you are an opportunist who cares nothing about church abuse and just having a popular hate blog.
You can prevent this post from being displayed, I have what I need. Thanks K bye.
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Yes, that’s interesting, too, Christine. I can understand why those who have been harmed would want to use a pseudonym (and I encourage it), but it doesn’t make sense for someone who is defending a pastor to hide behind initials.
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Big difference, AJ – this blog is for support. McGee posted a PUBLIC announcement and allowed the public to respond – – but only responses if he liked them. That is not cool.
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Christina great, now we are getting somewhere, should actual FACTS instead of what you think. Just one. I mean come on the liberal media lives and dies by reporting on Christian abuse, if you had a DROP of evidence it would be all over the news.
No news being reported means you have no FACTS.
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SSB Watchdog is out in force.
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Into the doghouse you go.
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I trashed 2 comments that came in while I was putting AJ in the doghouse.
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@AJ; I don’t know what you want other than to attack me saying I have no facts. I have facts, and here is one for you: The reason why David McGee will not sit down with any of us that he banned is because he didn’t follow Matthew and he broke the churches covenant that he helped write. Sounds like you are fighting a battle that you know very little about, I am sure you don’t know all that happened, just like others that have been questioning people about what happened. I do have all I need to know that he used his position as pastor to act in an ungodly way and then banned us from church and property, refuse to speak to anyone about what happened and tells others to not have any contact with any of us that were banned. I have the facts and evidence; and it will come out in time. David McGee has been reached out to and ignores all the calls to meet and discuss what he did, we all have to answer for what we do; so why not him. In essence if you agree with his actions; you agree that bullying people is ok.
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Another try..
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^Ok, that video works! Woof! Woof!
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I’d like to take this opportunity to once again state very clearly for the record that David McGee is an awful, awful guitar player. Just abysmal. His playing is an embarrassment. I suspect he became a preacher because he couldn’t make it as a musician, but he figured out that he could still butcher his guitar onstage and have a captive audience and live like a rock star with a lot of money if he became an evangelical con man.
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So, Dash, I’ve heard that he practices all the time and will keep people waiting for their scheduled appointments so he can finish practicing. It’s not good, huh? LOL You really crack me up.
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JA, he’s really, really bad, and that’s my genuine professional opinion. On a certain level I feel sorry for him. I’ve had a couple of students like him in years past: enormous egos, zero talent, tone deaf, and no clue how bad they sounded. And because they were clueless and tone deaf, no matter how I tried to work with them, they couldn’t improve. It’s a sad thing to watch. Eventually they would get mad because they truly believed they were God’s gift, and they would quit in a huff declaring that I’d see how awesome they are when they had record contracts and a million fans. Really. I’m still waiting.
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Really, consignment to the doghouse seems too good for some. Those who gang up to heap abuse upon abuse need to be flushed.
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AJ was here to poke and cause trouble not to talk about anything factual; as per the statements that AJ made (all untrue and accusing just like David McGee). I mean come on saying they were taking the screenshots to the church to show people; for what purpose; to come back on here and cause trouble….
People are standing up and speaking out and can’t be silenced any longer as there is strength and healing in groups like Julie Anne’s forum.
If you want to see for yourself that David refuses to speak to people call the church and ask them for their statement on the matter: The Bridge 336.996.6880 (comes from their website http://www.aboutthebridge.com) all public information.
Maybe they are not use to people standing up for themselves; well, they need to get use to it; as we are not going to stop standing up and speaking to those who want to know our story.
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Dear AJ,
Well, that was quick. How’s the view from the Milkbone Motel? 😉
You think you caught Julie Anne being abusive, just ’cause she’s not interested in letting you dump on Christina? This is a place for victims of abuse to feel safe, AJ. It can’t be that if you’re allowed to simply snipe at them and call them liars. So what’s McGee’s excuse for deleting comments and refusing to answer honest questions?
Do you have any idea how you sound to people outside of The Bridge Bubble? If you really “have evidence that this entire issue was manufactured for publicity”, then let’s see it. Bring something substantial to this conversation. Then our hostess might be inclined to let your comments out of moderation. Until then, your claims sound like a crock of monkey snot, at least to me.
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I totally support Christina and believe every word she has said about the bridge & mcgee because I have been there myself. I have been a first hand victim of their abuse and have seen the damage their abuse has done to others. And yes, david likes to practice his guitar on Van Halen rifts while making people wait who were courteous enough to make an appt. and be on time, and he is no Eddie Van Halen.
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This subject – spiritually abusive churches and pastors & elders – reminds me of a good article by conservative Baptist pastor Wade Burleson (Enid, OK.) who is a level-headed man and pastor over at The Wartburg Watch’s E-Church on Sundays and something Wade wrote about on his blog. Wade said the greatest threat to the church today is authoritarianism not legalism.
http://www.wadeburleson.org/2012/01/our-problem-is-authoritarianism-and-not.html
Wade also wrote an article about why folks should say *no* to signing church membership covenants: Because they are designed to strip church members of their rights, including legal rights, and then simply exist to support an authoritarianism church structure:
http://www.wadeburleson.org/2015/05/five-reasons-to-say-no-to-church.html
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Sad that anyone would come on a public board and post such untrue and unsubstantiated words. This person AJ needs to ask questions and search for answers instead of listening to second hand information, rumors, gossip and relying on a pastor with a questionable past, according to the stories on here. Any man that refuses to have a face to face meeting with his brothers and sisters that he has an issue with is not following the word of God, and it is bad when a pastor does this and then hides behind others, letting them defend him. He needs to be accountable for his actions; just as the couples involved deserve the chance to answer for the accusations that have been cast upon them by a pastor. Thanks Julie Anne for having a safe place for those suffering to come and share; as that is WAY more than David McGee has offered anyone from the stories on here.
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This pastor is on drugs and it this was brought to the attention of the church leadership and they refuse to drug test him.
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His own son is speaking out on Facebook and Twitter about his drug problems, abusing his wife, and his issues with anger and pride… The truth will come to light and his sins will be exposed. He can’t hide forever behind the camera. His son has hinted that he got a kidney from somewhere, possibly his own child.
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