Two Posts Containing Ravi Zacharias’ Personal Emails Were Removed: Why? (Updated)

Ravi Zacharias, RZIM, Clergy Sexual Misconduct


Ravi Zacharias, sex scandal, falsified credentials, lawsuit

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NOTE: This post is updated. The earlier version is at the bottom of this post.

When I began blogging, I did so to tell my own spiritual abuse experiences. There were no rules. I followed my heart. I still do the same today. I probably do things that make trained journalists cringe. Oh well. But, I must stay true to myself, true to victims, and true to my God. And sometimes that gets complicated.

This week, I published two articles which included private e-mails which were sent to me by the victim in Ravi Zacharias’ alleged sexual  misconduct case. (As was noted in the now-deleted post, these emails were sent to me long before any demand letter was sent, lawsuit filed, or settlement was reached.) I posted them because it was my understanding that the victim wanted the world to know what happened, how it happened, and as a warning to others because we were both convinced that this was predatory behavior and could likely have happened to others, and could happen again. I also published them because there was a lawsuit against this victim in which Ravi Zacharias’ narrative was shared in public court documents, but no one was able to see the other side before the case was settled out of court (and sources have told me there was a payout).

Because the case is a Federal lawsuit and available to the public, people will only be allowed to read Ravi Zacharias’ side. The victim’s side remains silent – which is exactly what all perpetrators want: silence.

I want to be clear. What I read and heard from the victim via phone and email testimony (including personal e-mails between the victim and Ravi Zacharias) showed a clear pattern of sexual grooming. I believe Ravi Zacharias took advantage of this woman as she shared her personal struggles with him. I believe that he took advantage of her vulnerabilities. I believe he shared with her personal information about himself which made her feel very special in his life. But this was all a ploy so he could then get sexual favors from her (nude photos). This is how the grooming process works.

This morning, I woke up to find an email in my inbox from the victim. The note asked me to remove the private emails. Out of respect for the victim, I have done so.

I do not know if the victim was pressured to ask this by anyone from RZIM or by Ravi Zacharias himself, or if this was of her own initiative. Regardless, I need to honor the victim’s request first and foremost.

Does it change my opinion of the victim? Absolutely not. Does it change my opinion of Ravi Zacharias as a possible predator? Absolutely not. Does it change the validity of her testimony and e-mails? Absolutely not.

Thousands of people saw the e-mails. I believe that Ravi Zacharias and this case should be fully investigated. It is not acceptable to pay people off and silence them when there is sexual misconduct – and it is my opinion that this is what happened in this situation.

Once again, I will mention that Ravi Zacharias is a person of public interest and import. I have shared my personal opinions and beliefs based on my years of studying patterns of abuse and sexual misconduct. What I have shared, I believe to be true, and I have shared it with the intent to help and protect others from harm. I have no malicious intent whatsoever .


This is what was posted earlier today 12/2/17.

I think this is only the second time I have done this in my nearly 6 yrs of blogging. I was requested by the victim to remove the posts containing personal emails between Ravi Zacharias and the victim, and have done so.

I will be following up with a statement shortly about this and will add it to this post.

63 comments on “Two Posts Containing Ravi Zacharias’ Personal Emails Were Removed: Why? (Updated)

  1. I can understand her fear of getting into hot water. Lots of us read it and it can’t be unread. We will keep it with us and remember he is slime.

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  2. If Ravi did engage in sexual abuse, there is no point of defending him. And the victim needs all our sympathies and support. But the way you are manipulating the internet in destroying Ravi’s name with this case sounds very fishy and totally an agenda driven campaign; possibly orchestrated by many players, including the “alleged victims”. When I read those emails; they look as if anyone could have created an account with Ravi’s name. The very language in those email betrays the victim’s mindset. I think we should not exonerate the schemers while defending the genuine sexual abuse victims. There goes my angry 2cent toward a society that glories in big Sin while falling headlong in small matters.

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  3. I agree we should withhold a certain amount of judgment. RZIM however needs to address this ASAP they mentioned it on their FB page and said they will be addressing it. However, everyday that goes by, more damage is caused.

    It’s puzzling that they claim that the accusations are totally baseless, there is evidence that is compelling and should be explained.

    What is also troubling is the fact that the lawsuit was settled outside of court and Ravi paid out of his own pocket.

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  4. The continually revising bio of RZ tells me all. RZ and his organization are unwilling to publically admit he/they screwed up/lied for decades. What ever the actual details of this “misconduct” are, it has been handled in a very poor manner, just like the misrepresentation (lying) of RZ credentials. The irony of a RZIM “honesty/integrity” business comference going on at this moment is just incredible.

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  5. http://www.raviwatch.com/news/story/sex-scandal/

    There is enough posted over at Raviwatch.com, and other sites, to give anyone pause that something not right is going on in Raviland. Theologically, I am in many ways in Ravi’s “camp”, but I get very concerned when Christian “celebrities” use their status to cover up their own sins and threaten others. This incident won’t go away, although I am sure that many Ravi supporters will pretend it never happened.

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  6. Julie Anne, I love the way you honour and prioritise the requests and the voices of those who been been targeted and abused by malignant evildoers who are bent on aggrandising themselves and slaking their lusts at the expense of others.

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  7. JA “I’ve been seeing that Ravi supporters simply don’t care that it happened”

    I’ve seen this too. It’s an issue in its own right, but a serious one. This attitude to well-known ministries is a serious error if it leads to sin being covered up.

    When Paul had to confront Peter when he had gone into error (admittedly not immorality), what would have happened if the Peter supporters had got together to shut Paul up?

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  11. Hmmm. I don’t consider a person asking for 5 million dollars of “hush” money a victim. I called them an extortionist. Also, this isn’t her and her husband’s first rodeo with going after a ministry leader on ludicrous claims.

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  12. @Steve Baughman: Let’s suppose, just for the sake of argument, that Ravi is indeed a liar and a predator. Can you tell us, Steve, what exactly is “wrong” with those things?

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  14. Julie Ann, I’m so sad that you even have a voice, you need to vet your sources better before you greatly discredit truly godly men like Ravi. Maybe you’re better suited in another line of work…say bar tending?

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  15. Julie Anne,
    Maybe you have to look into your own heart before you start tearing down people’s lives. Proverbs 3:30 sounds a terrible warning for those of us who try to make it our business to tear down others even though they have done nothing against us.
    “Don’t accuse anyone without cause, when he has done you no harm.”

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  17. andydoerksen said,

    @Steve Baughman:
    Let’s suppose, just for the sake of argument, that Ravi is indeed a liar and a predator. Can you tell us, Steve, what exactly is “wrong” with those things?

    I see what you’re driving at.

    You can get into arguments about what foundation does an atheist have to say if adultery or lying is immoral-

    But does that really matter, when Christians themselves say there is a God, and they further stipulate that God defines some of his moral values in the Bible, and among them, is that adultery and lying are sins?

    And that in 1 Corinthians 5, the apostle wrote to dis-fellowship any man who says he is in Christ but who is living in unrepentant sin?
    And isn’t there a Bible verse that says that the sins of God’s people who claim God’s name bring reproach on God in the mouths of the pagans, which is a bad thing?

    What good is it to have a belief in a deity, and to appeal to a book you say was written by that God, if you’re not willing to do as it says?
    Even Jesus said, “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord’ but do not do what I say?”

    I think that is one thing some atheists are pointing to in situations such as this. It’s sure one thing that has caused me to have doubts about the faith the last few years.

    Atheists may not have a deity or something solid they can use to explain why adultery or lying is a sin, but Christians who claim to believe in a deity but don’t honor that deity and that deity’s teachings aren’t that much better, but are sort of living life like ‘practical atheists,’ no?

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  18. “Disgusted by Clouds” wrote,

    …discredit truly godly men like Ravi

    The Bible says in 1 Cor 5 (and I think in another section or two) that Christians are too call out other self-professing believers if they are living in sin.

    So, yes, they’re supposed to discredit, if it is applicable.

    Also, if Ravi is inflating or exaggerating his educational credentials, that is not behaving in a “truly godly” manner.
    If Ravi was flirting with a married woman, that is not “truly godly” behavior, either.

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  19. And by “flirting” above, I was thinking more about Ravi sending the lady nude photos or asking them to send them to him, or whatever they were doing.

    I don’t know if innocent flirting it altogether horrible for married people. I suppose that’s a grea area and debatable, but going behind your spouse’s back to send someone else nude photos, or asking some married person for their nude photos, is more than crossing a line.

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  20. Dang, so many typos in my last post. It’s late, I’m getting sleepy, I should go to bed anyway.

    “Grea” was supposed to be “grey.”
    “asking them to send them to him,” should be, “asking her to send them to him…”

    An “it” above was supposed to be “is.”

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  21. @Julie Anne: My line of questioning goes to the plaintiff’s intellectual and moral foundation for his grievance, your honor. 😉

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  22. @ Daisy: Your points are well articulated – and well taken. However, (a) since an atheist posted here, l voiced a question relevant to both this thread and the atheist’s way of thinking. An atheist has no basis for suggesting that there’s something “wrong” with a Christian’s hypocrisy. Indeed, for an atheist to voice such a judgment is hypocritical of the atheist!

    Yet (b) among Christians themselves, you are entirely correct to argue that we must hold one another accountable – and that when we don’t, we damage our corporate witness. Thanks for reminding us of this truth!

    Nonetheless, (c) while Ravi was sloppy and unwise, l don’t (yet) consider his actions ethically hypocritical.

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  24. Ravi Zacharius doesn’t get an automatic pass from me but I’m trying to understand some points:
    1 The victim asked for mediation, right? Doesn’t that mean she has something to hide, instead of Ravi having something to hide?
    2 Ravi was the one sueing, so if there was a pay out, it would be to him, right?
    3 How does saying,” 5 million dollars will keep me silent,” back up her claim that she just didn’t want someone else to go through what she did?
    4 An adult woman sent nude photos of herself to someone else’s husband. . If she was a young girl, I could possibly think the coercion argument possibly valid, but from a woman old enough to know better? That would be laughable if it wasn’t so serious. In essence, she’s saying that Ravi has such a persuasive way with written words, that though they weren’t seeing one another in person, she just couldn’t help but remove her clothes, while she was many miles away from him, and take pictures of herself. Sorry, but how did Ravi hold any power over her that she didn’t choose to give him? IF he came on to her in emails, just because he’s a prominent man, doesn’t equate with abusive grooming. IF he made a personal connection with her via email, just because he’s a prominent person, doesn’t mean he was sexually grooming her.. No one made her email him repeatedly. He had no power to hold over her, other than the power of attraction. Being foolish enough to do something of the nature of what she did, and crying, “Abuse,” is in my opinion, a slap in the face to most sexually abused women. I could understand fear of speaking out afterwards, but fear of not participating in the sin? No.
    I have concerns with Ravi’s story but I have bigger problems with hers. No, that doesn’t give him a pass.

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  25. I have shared here on this blog (thank you again, Julie Anne!) my face-to-face experiences with Tullian Tchividjian and Bob Coy. I witnessed their pulpit arrogance firsthand. I warned people about them. In Tullian’s case, I went through a destructive church split because of him that wrecked friendships. Coy and Tchividjian are not only suspected spiritual and sexual abusers, they are PROVEN spiritual and sexual abusers. They destroyed people as well as their marriages and families. To this day, as far as I know, they remain unrepentant in their arrogance despite being rightfully deposed from their pastorships.

    Then comes Ravi’s situation. It is different from that of Coy and Tchividjian.

    From the beginning, I had some doubts about the woman’s accusations. I briefly posted here that I was waiting for more facts to come out. I have read the banjo atheist’s posts. I have read the woman’s emails, her lawyer’s demand letter, Ravi’s lawsuit and RZIM’s public statements of December 4.

    I believe Ravi.

    Also, I believe that Ravi has acknowledged the mistakes he made in engaging this couple. I believe RZIM has addressed the rightful concerns about the inflated credentials. I believe Ravi and RZIM have acknowledged their sins openly, they have repented and are acting to correct them.

    Now, what next?

    Keep the faith, keep leading the fight against spiritual and sexual abusers.

    Your thoughts?

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  26. In this current environment of #MeToo, there is not only new credibility and freedom given to women who have endured much and said little; there is also plenty of room for agendas and revenge for spurned advances. This is nothing new- such accusations were old even in Potiphar’s era. Hell hath no fury.

    This will certainly be the opportunity that some have been waiting for, and it will no doubt be exploited as much as possible. However, it would seem that nude photos – provided and sent by this married woman- are more an attack on RZ’s perhaps unrealistic fortress of integrity than anything else.

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  27. Donner – sometimes my comments here go into moderation as well, and I’ve posted here for a few years. I think certain words trigger a filter or something. Julie Anne will probably “Okay” your comments to appear as soon as she checks in and sees them.

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  28. BusyMom said,

    Sorry, but how did Ravi hold any power over her that she didn’t choose to give him? IF he came on to her in emails, just because he’s a prominent man, doesn’t equate with abusive grooming.

    Busy Mom, I don’t know about this lady specifically who Julie Anne is blogging about, but I can see that happening, even with a grown adult woman.

    I get into my story in more detail on my Daisy blog, but the way my mother raised me, I was like a girl in a grown woman’s body.

    I had a college degree and was “book smart” and can sound like an adult, but I was not terribly good at “People Smarts.”

    I was not taught basic adult life skills when I was growing up by my parents. I was encouraged to be meek, mild, passive, go to my mother (or my father) for all decisions (instead of making them all on my own).

    I was not taught to have boundaries or to be assertive but was discouraged from having them.

    As such, it was very easy for people to abuse me or take advantage.

    Not all adults who are “chronological” adults are mentally or emotionally grown-up.

    You can be 35, 45, 55 years old, have a normal I.Q., but still be emotionally or mentally around 10 years old, in some respects. I don’t know how else to explain it.

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  29. @ 530 said,

    n this current environment of #MeToo, there is not only new credibility and freedom given to women who have endured much and said little; there is also plenty of room for agendas and revenge for spurned advances. This is nothing new- such accusations were old even in Potiphar’s era. Hell hath no fury.

    This will certainly be the opportunity that some have been waiting for, and it will no doubt be exploited as much as possible. However, it would seem that nude photos – provided and sent by this married woman- are more an attack on RZ’s perhaps unrealistic fortress of integrity than anything else.

    Oh jeeze, it’s historically that very horrible attitude which kept women from coming forward when they were sexually harassed or abused: people would accuse them of being spiteful, or just going after money, inviting the abuse by something they may have done, etc.

    Also, I don’t think Ravi Z. qualifies as a biblical, Genesis “Joseph.”

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  30. “Oh jeeze, it’s historically that very horrible attitude which kept women from coming forward when they were sexually harassed or abused: people would accuse them of being spiteful, or just going after money, inviting the abuse by something they may have done, etc.”

    But that’s exactly what this appears to be- just going after money. Read the CT article- she and her husband were already implicated once.

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  31. @ 530

    Even if it’s true…. most women are not after money, or lying, or are spurned lovers.

    Again, that sort of doubt-casting on one woman in that manner makes other women hesitant to step forward when they’re sexually harassed. It’s still contributing to the fear sexual abuse victims have in going public or reporting incidents to police, HR, whomever.

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  32. “When I began blogging, I did so to tell my own spiritual abuse experiences. There were no rules. I followed my heart. I still do the same today. I probably do things that make trained journalists cringe. Oh well. But, I must stay true to myself, true to victims, and true to my God. And sometimes that gets complicated.”

    Did you do ANYTHING to establish the truths of this woman’s claims?

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  33. Even with the woman as the initiator, the relationship went on way too long and was obviously consensual on Ravi’s part. If it had been an online “counseling” relationship, it would have still be inappropriate because it was conducted on Ravi’s private e-mail account/devices (the Blackberry). Anything with a payout reeks of inappropriate.

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  34. KAM,

    Actually it’s the other way around. This whole mess started when Ravi went after that couple for a donation.

    And Julie Anne has already done plenty of investigation. Please do your research as well.

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  38. Avid Reader: “And Julie Anne has already done plenty of investigation. Please do your research as well.”

    Evidence, please.

    I may do research, or not. Because I’m not playing with weapons of mass destruction. The burden of proof is on Julie Anne. “Oh well” doesn’t cut it.

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  39. KAM,

    The evidence is right in front of you if you would just open your eyes.

    Please tell us that you are not too lazy to do your own research because you feel entitled to demanding that everyone else do the work for you.

    Julie Anne and the team here have already done their research even though you are choosing to ignore that.

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  40. I read an article by Abigail Sanchez in
    Hello Christian newsletter Dec 5. It’s entitled Ravi Zacharias Dismisses Lawsuit and Addresses Sexting Claims.
    It says “Stated in the lawsuit is the fact
    that the couple previously sued a pastor in Ontario, Canada for allegedly
    coercing them into unadvisable loans and investments.” Is this true? You may have already covered this, Julie Anne but I find it concerning.

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  41. busyMOM, “Sorry, but how did Ravi hold any power over her that she didn’t choose to give him? IF he came on to her in emails, just because he’s a prominent man, doesn’t equate with abusive grooming. IF he made a personal connection with her via email, just because he’s a prominent person, doesn’t mean he was sexually grooming her..”

    I think this is a really important point that should be discussed. The purpose of all authority, be it spiritual, familial or governmental, from a Biblical perspective, is to remove roadblocks to obedience to God, as well as remind people of their need to obey God. Each “sphere” of authority has their own unique role to play.

    However, what Jesus has said is that people in those positions have the tendency to “domineer”. Boiling that down, what that really means is that people in positions of influence and authority have a natural tendency to use those positions to claim honor for themselves and to subtly shift peoples’ focus from God to themselves.

    Now, some people like that are more obvious. I think people are pretty aware that Trump is pretty big on having his name on lots of building and making sure he looks good, and not so big on removing roadblocks to obedience to God.

    But, there are also people who have the strength of personality and interpersonal skills to deceive people into all sorts of horrible things. For example, Charles Manson just died. He was able to convince his followers to commit murder without remorse by the strength of his personality. These were adults. So we’ve seen these sorts of things in the past.

    Also, in Evangelicalism, there is a system of undue reverence for those seen to be spiritually gifted – pastors, evangelists, and especially those who are in the book writing/conference circuits, where their followers don’t have the right boundaries in dealing with them. I knew I grew up being taught that it was okay to tell the pastor everything (although there was also evidence that people who did tell the pastor ‘too much’ often ended up in big trouble)

    So, I’m not going to dismiss offhand that someone is somehow ‘lesser’ because she was able to be seduced by an obviously gifted speaker into letting down her guard in personally embarrassing ways.

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  43. ​New post up at Spiritual Sounding Board: “Resource Archive and FAQs on the Ravi Zacharias and RZIM Situation.” It includes numerous links to primary source documents, plus links to posts with observations, analysis, and interpretations. This was developed in response to what look to be the most frequently asked questions about all the parties involved. So far, concerns addressed include about the prior lawsuit by the couple involved, the current legal documents and follow-up statements by Mr. Zacharias and RZIM, Zacharias family members on the RZIM board of directors and staff employees, Mr. Zacharias’ use of credentials and titles, updating of his biographies and titles, and the impact of the non-disclosure agreement.

    If you’ve got concerns about some of these issues, you will likely find sources to study so you can come to your own informed conclusions.

    https://spiritualsoundingboard.com/2017/12/08/resource-archive-and-faqs-on-the-ravi-zacharias-and-rzim-situation/

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  44. I am greatly puzzled by the fact that the alleged victim had through her lawyer demanded for 5 million to stop her from bringing it public. Is that a pursuit of justice and truth or is it a case of greed or what some would call extortion. What ever value in her story is destroyed by her own desire for money. Yet you try to make her look like a saint beyond reproach. Is that double standard.
    For all the 48 years or more of the sacrificial service of Ravi Zaccharias at the expense of his family and the untold millions of lives impacted by his ministry and lives changed and transformed and given a new lease of life and hope, you have not even mention it but a few words from a woman that you hardly know , you treated it as as gospel truth and pursue it at the expense of man who had given so much to give people a hope and a reason to live. Can you cast aspersions on a person integrity through social media by sheer word of a woman who stands to benefit from her doubtful accusations, a cool 5 Million. She started the process with a lawyer’s legal demand letter . When Ravi Zacharias sued her and took her to court and under legal advise , she settled the matter. What else can a reasonable man say in regards to the credibility of her claim without putting up a fight ? Ravi Zacharias putting his integrity on the line , went public with a federal court case rather than to succumb to the extortion of 5 million. She had all the right to tell her story but she choose not to defend when she was the instigator who fired the first shot with her lawyer demand letter for 5 million.That speaks volume of the veracity of her alleged claim.

    Is that about truth and the quest for justice or fairness or is there more to it then meets the eye.
    The parties have settled the matter amicably. The integrity of a man of world standing has been put in question and he has responded.
    It is time that we move on. Lets focus on building people and lives and make the world a happier place.
    I trust that none of us will say that we are so perfect that we are incapable of committing a judgment of error or mistake. So pause and judge not less we are judged in our own frailties and weakness.

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  45. Hi CS, thanks for the comment: Be sure to check out this post with resources/links. I would not be so quick to make up your mind.

    If you saw Zacharias’ salary, I’m not so sure you would say it was sacrificial (oh, and his family is on the payroll, too).

    Why did he write suicide e-mails? That’s an important question that has not received attention. Why would he threaten to end his life?

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  46. “I trust that none of us will say that we are so perfect that we are incapable of committing a judgment of error or mistake.”

    Correct, but mistakes have consequences. People are fired for lying about their credentials, and people are fired for many forms of exploitation of people that their ministries are ministering to.

    Should we have the expectation that Christians who are in ministry are held to a higher standard or to a lower standard? What witness do we have to the world if we insist on overlooking judgment errors in our leaders? I know of a few cases where people who lied about their credentials were fired on the spot. One a Vice President of a Fortune 500 company, and one a city manager.

    “Can you cast aspersions on a person [of] integrity”

    I think, by definition, a person of integrity would not present himself as something he’s not (i.e. “Dr.” Zacharias), so, we are just calling attention to the truth. Isn’t that what Christians are called to do? We shine a light on the deeds of darkness. Is lying about your credentials a deed of darkness? Sure is.

    “Lets focus on building people and lives and make the world a happier place.”

    I think your assumption here is that the world would be a happier place if we just let everyone sin without being held accountable. Or at least if we let our Christian idols sin without being held accountable. I think the world would be a happier place if there were less sin, and as Jesus says, sin hides in the darkness. So, it seems like you’re fighting for the wrong team. You say, let’s let Ravi’s sins hang out in the darkness so everyone is happier, and I think that’s not what Jesus would say.

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